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Author:  Hounddog [ August 26th, 2013, 2:22 pm ]
Post subject:  T750 Legal Motors
We revised our 2013 T750 rules regarding motors.
The legal motors are
[1] production motors up to 45 cubic inch.
These are your 50 to 60 hp models.
-Yamaha 3 cylinder 43 cubic inch
-Tohatsu/Nissan 3 cylinder 43 cubic inch
-OMC 2 cylinder 45 cubic inch.

[2] in 2013 we expanded the list to include
- 48 to 60 hp 2 cylinder Mariner or Yamaha
- 50 to 70 hp twin carb 49 cubic inch Mariner or Mercury.

[3] your can also run
-50 to 60 hp ETEC
-50 to 60 hp FOUR STROKE

Obviously, we have not seen most of the legal motors yet. T is all about being competitive Flexable. If your boat runs 55 mph, you will be competitive in T750. If your're too fast we will work with you to slow you down a bit. The speed range for this class is 55 to 60 mph. With the new T850 rules I think we may have a grey area in the 61 to 65 mph range. Most T850's are now running 65 to 70 mph. It maybe necessary to slot in a new group that runs 61 to 65 mph. With our increasing boat count we will be able to adjust the heats so everyone is competitive in their heat and having fun.
Author:  hec2buck [ August 26th, 2013, 2:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: T750 Legal Motors
Don,

Does this then rule out the 49.7 cid 3 cylinder motors with the big gear case?

Thanks Thom
Author:  Hounddog [ August 26th, 2013, 3:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: T750 Legal Motors
hec2buck wrote:
Don,

Does this then rule out the 49.7 cid 3 cylinder motors with the big gear case?

Thanks Thom


Thom, that combo is not a legal T750 in 2013. It is allowed to race, but does not get T750 points. The only legal 49 3 cylinder is the Mercury twin carb 49.
Author:  hec2buck [ August 27th, 2013, 10:36 am ]
Post subject:  Re: T750 Legal Motors
Hi Don,

What about 2014?

Thom
Author:  Hounddog [ August 27th, 2013, 11:07 am ]
Post subject:  Re: T750 Legal Motors
hec2buck wrote:
Hi Don, What about 2014? Thom


The T group has not talked about that combination as to it being legal in T750. The idea of allowing it in the first place was to encourage the owners of VooDoo's, Checkmates, Kennedys etc. with long shaft 70 hp to race. Craig's Critchfield is really at the high end of that scale. We want the T750 pure motors to be the class of the T750 field. By having these other motors with different performance charactistics it can really add to the race and as we saw in Dunnville the fans and drivers loved it. I mentioned on another thread that I can see us having a grey area with boats that run low 60's. I think that group can be filled with short shaft big foot 2 strokes, omcs, yamahas and mercurys and 4 strokes. That group would be part of T850 not T750.
T wants to have different makes and models in the classes because it adds to the fan interest and we try to fit entries into groups where they fit. T is flexable and adjustable. If we had 3 ETECS, 2 4 Strokes and 4 2 stroke big foots we can make them a separate group and class with in T. This allows us to keep up with the modern trends and run boats and motors people want to race.
Author:  hec2buck [ August 27th, 2013, 11:19 am ]
Post subject:  Re: T750 Legal Motors
I appreciate your taking the time to give us the heads up on this. When do you think a decision will be made as to the short 15" big foot 49.7 cid? My reason for asking is that Todd & I want Mathew to run the T-750 boat when he turns 16 next season. He will weigh about 250 pounds by then. If the 49.7 cid, 15" w/ big foot will be legal, it would make sense for us to do so for Mathew. The added torque and power will help his body weight.

Thanks Don,

Thom
Author:  Hounddog [ August 27th, 2013, 11:42 am ]
Post subject:  Re: T750 Legal Motors
Thom, I think it is doable. I know Craig wants to run, Erik has a 49 and I bet his VooDoo is more competitive with the 49 big foot combo. Kevin could race as well. There are two more 6 mile fellows that are intersted and have similar speed boats. Maybe we can get enough boats to make this a separate group. They would race with T750 but scored separately.
The first step is to get confirmation from the current T750 racers that this would be OK for them.
Then get a firm boat count.
Comments from other T races ..please!
Author:  jake@elsey.ca [ August 27th, 2013, 12:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: T750 Legal Motors
The 49 big foots will dominate. For sure. So i guess how i feel is, if you can get a legal motor, run it. But if you already have a 49 big foot, and its all you have, and you just want to race, no points - then that's fine.
I know Craig didn't even have close to the right prop, and had only just floated the boat.
Author:  hec2buck [ August 27th, 2013, 1:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: T750 Legal Motors
I'm with Jake on the 49.7's w/ big foots; they will totally dominate. Question we all have to answer is should they be in a separate class. I feel they should. Having them run with T-750's depends of course on the boat count.

Thom
Author:  WalkWithMax [ August 27th, 2013, 3:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: T750 Legal Motors
There has been some good discussion so far around this guys.
I think this class is currently more of a lightweight class kinda like A hydro. If you are a big guy or run a heavier boat, Its going to be hard to be competetive with other guys and T750 legal boats weighing much less. These boats are pretty easy to drive, so boat speed is even more critical than in T850. Matt Bucknell might be better off with a big case 49 for 2014, or hiring a jockey to drive? I have thought about this for myself because I have a 13ft Checkmate project that likely wont go 50mph with a 2cyl. I can see how this is not a black and white easy to solve issue though. I have to say it is so great to see the class gaining interest and growing!
Dave.
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